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Zimahype
02-25-2006, 04:37 PM
So I rebuilt my tribal about a year ago and I just got air for it. Aired it up and I'm not getting anything. Also put a new battery in but the light is orange is that right? I hear the solenoid cycle. But there is no movement. I put all new o-rings in (could have messed something up) I have an AKA regulator and the gauge is maxed out all the way around. Tryed to adjust it but no firing.

Is there anyone that I can send this to and fix because I don't have the time. The gun will just sit if I try to do i myself.

Thanks Jeremy

~kaos~
02-26-2006, 12:41 AM
I'll take a wild 'educated' guess and say the AOC (the stock lpr) is set too low.
With a little time & effort you could probably get it working. However to properly set the AOC psi requires either a aoc/lpr gauge or ram gauge. Or if you have a little $$ you can just pull the stock AOC assembly and replace it with one of our aftermarket LPR's..... this is the easiest way to go. Of course simpler yet would be to send it off to any qualified TOG member.
Here's a short list of members that have the tools & know how:
~ WarpedMephisto (Warped Airsmithing)
~ Edwin (Edwins Atermarket Tribal Products)
~ CDarnell (Maddman Products) *very busy now*
~ Me / ~kaos~
~ ShiftyCastro
and probably several others.
If locations help here's where a few of us are at.......Shifty & I are in Texas, Warped is in St.Louis area, Edwin near New Orleans & CDarnell is just north of K.C.

bakerboy4679
02-26-2006, 09:18 AM
I put all new o-rings in (could have messed something up)
As long as you put orings back in the slots where they belong(3 on AOC, 2 on the valve, one on the HPR, and 3 on your Ram), and theres no air leakage anywhere, everything in that way should be fine. all they do is prevent air from leaking and or flowing to places they shouldnt (i.e. HP air going to selenoid).

It sounds like you don't wanna fool with it anymore, but your knowledge of tribals and how they work will DOUBLE or more by reading tech articles(like on this (http://tribal.notinsane.net/tech.html) page and on the wonderful TOG) and trying to figure it out and fix it yourself first (adjusting the AOC, or replacing it with an aftermarket LPR).

-drew

Zimahype
02-26-2006, 01:16 PM
Well I looked at it again today. Removed the HP reg and air released from it. I reattached it and aired it back up. I pull the trigger and hear air near the two small holes above the solenoid. After every pull of the trigger, the sound of the air gets quieter and quieter till no more air is heard.

Zimahype
02-26-2006, 01:58 PM
Pulled the grip frame and aired it up and I see that the air is coming out of a hole in the solenoid.

~kaos~
02-26-2006, 08:02 PM
Actually there are 2 hole/slots for it to vent out of. What's happing is that your AOC/lpr has loosened up a bit and it seems to be either set just above 130psi or it's creeping just above. Your noid is designed to "vent" once the pressure to your neoid exceeds 130psi (give or take a few psi). What you decide to do from here is your call......
~ Pull your HPR, Vert asa & screw, AOC cap, plunger assembly &spring and the AOC body. On the end of the body is a screwdrive slot. It needs to be turned CLOCKWISE maybe an 1/8th of a turn or less. Then re-assemble everything, air it up and see if the hissing has stopped. If not then repeat the whole process.
~ Or you could purchase an lpr adapter and use any Cocker style LPR instead of the AOC.
~ Or you could purchase one of Edwins AOC replacement products.

bakerboy4679
02-27-2006, 11:10 AM
That link I gave in the post above(Tribal.notinsane.net) has a nice walkthrough on adjusting the AOC. It would really come in handy.

-Andrew

Edwin
03-02-2006, 05:46 PM
Sounds like it just needs a good lubing.

Unfortunately, you need to break everything down and to lube properly.

Zimahype
03-02-2006, 06:25 PM
I have lubed everything! I started adjusting the AOC and I have no gauge so I don't know whats happeneing. If I adjusted too low I get a build up of pressure between the HPR and the ASA. If too high I get the leaking noid. So I think I'll get a LPRC so I don't have to keep taking the AOC out!

bakerboy4679
03-02-2006, 08:27 PM
Thats a wise choice. I'm getting ready to get myself one as well.

And btw, that write-up on taking everything apart is posted in this forum(Tribal Basics and General Tech Q/As"

-Andrew

Zimahype
03-04-2006, 01:21 PM
Well I was pulling the gun apart and found the white little button thats at the bottom of solenoid has popped out and the spring behind is nowhere to be found. The air is leaking there too!