So i got screwed in a deal

[gdog5]

Yea the so called "working condition" bbt i bought was infact in need of some service bad. Everything is almost alright now but, a previous owner screwed the asa screw into the aoc body. Mangling the aoc and the screw itself. My solenoid keeps on leaking and im wondering if its because one of the o-rings on the aoc might not be sealing, idk. Ive been lookin at the tlprc but idk if i want to spend the money (do i need to buy a non aoc asa screw along with it?). Anyone have an aoc layin around?

[shiftycastro]

i have about 15 laying around.......but if you buy edwins tilpr i have a extra asa screw ill send you for free

[gdog5]

do you think the leaking from the solenoid is due to one of the o-rings not sealing on the aoc? ive turned the adjustment screw down a lot so i no im not sending too much psi into the solenoid. thanks for the input.

[shiftycastro]

do you think the leaking from the solenoid is due to one of the o-rings not sealing on the aoc? ive turned the adjustment screw down a lot so i no im not sending too much psi into the solenoid. thanks for the input.

that should be the first thing you check......sometimes a little thread tape under the oring gives it that extra seal

[gdog5]

yea i already have some stuffed under there but it might still not be sealing from the damage. i guess the only way to know is to replace the aoc body.

[Edwin]

If the ASA screw is mangled, then the AOC cannot keep its position in the body (most cases), therefore the LP can change and cause too high or too low of pressure to the noid.

The ASA screw is very important to the LP. If the tip of the ASA screw (the part where the manufacturer machines off the threads) is dented or bent, then the AOC body will move back and forth causing different Low Pressures!!!

Also if your adjusting the AOC without a gauge, your throwing shit into a fan.

[gdog5]

lol yea i dont have a gauge, but i mean as long as i trial and error it enough it should be fine right?

edit: to tell you the truth i have no clue what im gunna do. maybe i should just get the tlprc

[usagi_tetsu]

It'll perform better than the AOC, and save you lots of headache.

[bakerboy4679]

It'll perform better than the AOC, and save you lots of headache.

x2.
You'd be MUCH better off with one of Edwins lprs. Easy to adjust(external allen wrench), better looking(anodized), and MUCH better performing(omg)... the list goes on...

[gdog5]

When the time comes ill definately pick one up. For now i have 4 other guns that need parts/repair and its going to take some $$. :(

[gdog5]

i want shifty to have my babies.

but seriously i put an aoc and an asa screw that isnt all dented up (thanks shifty) in and it works! omg she shoots with no leaks! i feel like crying (no). the velocity is a little low, 220s if that by my judgement, but its from insufficient psi from my reg which with in conjunction with my lp tank only is feeding 200psi into the gun (its an ion reg, its a temp). The normal operating pressure is around 300-350 right?

[shiftycastro]

your pretty much starving it for air.......high pressure tank is better.

im glad it worked out for you, between the 3 aocs i figured you could get one good one...... threw in a asa screw that i had laying around as well.

[~kaos~]

the velocity is a little low, 220s if that by my judgement, but its from insufficient psi from my reg which with in conjunction with my lp tank only is feeding 200psi into the gun (its an ion reg, its a temp). The normal operating pressure is around 300-350 right?
Nope.... normal op psi is 200-225. Let's try something easy (& temporary) like kicking the dwell up. If you open up the grip side that covers the battery you will notice 8 little whit tabs directly above the battery (dip switches). Assuming the first 3 are all OFF (down) you are at 14ms, let's go to the complete other end and try 21ms of dwell. Push switches 1,2 & 3 'up' (on), see if your velocity is notibly higher. If you want something in the middle try 17ms.... #1/down, #2 & #3 up.
You can also go back into the AOC and tweek it up a little, you can push it all the way up to 130-ish psi before the noid starts hissing. And dialed in at 120+ you shouldn't have any velocity issues (if your hpr is good).

[gdog5]

hmm so at 200-225 psi is what it should be operating at. i found a lot of conflicting info on what the op should be. yea i guess ill turn the aoc up a lil and maybe kick the dwell up. thanks.

[~kaos~]

hmm so at 200-225 psi is what it should be operating at. i found a lot of conflicting info on what the op should be. yea i guess ill turn the aoc up a lil and maybe kick the dwell up. thanks.
Take a poll..... I'd be willing to bet that over 50% of the members here run their hp regs from 200-230. Now lp op psi is a different matter..... Shifty, Tracker & myself like ours up around 105-115, I believe Edwin, Warped & a couple others prefer 90-ish (or lower).

[shiftycastro]

i find it is more consistent if you run the lpr at 105-115........then sweet spot the hpr.

[gdog5]

yea i thought the op was around 300-350 bc i downloaded a tribal manual and according to it thats wat its sposed to be, idfk. but yea as far as the aoc psi idk wat the hell im running at right now. i spent the last hour adjusting it to the point where i have decent fps and the stupid solendoid doesnt leak when i shoot lol. with using lp air, the ion reg all the way up putting 200psi in, and the adjusted aoc and upped dwell i have much better velocity now. i just ran some paint through it and it looks great. im going to bring it to the field to use the weekend after this and hopefully it wont let me down heh. thanks for the input though, one of these day im going to have an lpr on it, just not now.