Eye Covers - come vote here!

[warpedmephisto]

I'm going to stop using the e-blade eye covers for my ACE installs on the Tribals and am going to start making dedicated aluminum eye covers. I was thinking that the Cyborg style eye covers look very nice and would be easy enough to machine.

I need all of your opinions on what style eye covers you all would want. I will also try and make the eye covers universal for all Tribals, but I'll have to really sit down and look at the models and their body styles. Also, they'll be available in anodized colors to match the rest of the marker.

Here's a link to MacDev's page on the Cyborg so you can see the eye covers: http://www.macdev.net/06cyborg.htm

[jeremy.sears]

I will say that if you have seen the eye covers that tarantula made for my twister it is a great design for that gun (screw runs through one eye cover, inbetween the middle of the gun and screws into the other eye cover) keeps you from having to tap into the body for the screw holes and you have seen the fluster eye covers I like both setups

[shiftycastro]

you know you can always put me on that list

[warpedmephisto]

For the Twister I was going to make a little block that sat between the tubes and each eye cover screw threaded into that instead of the body.

Jeremy - got any pics of your covers?

[Theguy]

yeah the problem with mine, is that I didn't expect the Tub I ordered to be as thin as it was, so when you drill your eye holes in the middle of the breech, the eye covers don't quite reach the tub.

[warpedmephisto]

What kind of eye covers are you using? When you say didn't reach, are they too short, or don't go in far enough to make up the step between the body and the tub?

[jeremy.sears]

Here is a picture of one side if you want a pic of the other side let me know I could also take pictures of the covers off of the gun

http://home.insightbb.com/~jeremy.sears/wsb/media/1065900/site1048.JPG

[Theguy]

What kind of eye covers are you using? When you say didn't reach, are they too short, or don't go in far enough to make up the step between the body and the tub?

Eclipse E-blade eye covers. The wires don't grab the tub well enough, theres only a tiny bit bent around the inside. After a game, the bottoms are usually popped out, with only the screws holding them on.

[warpedmephisto]

I could could do them like Jeremy's Twister, but I was just thinking the angled Cyborg ones might just look nice. But going straight up from the front of the frame is easy enough to do as well.

Theguy - yeah, thats exactly why I want to stop using the E-blade style ones on Tribals. For my Angel installs I'll have to keep using them though as milling curved eye covers would be a PITA.

Any other styles anyone is drawn to? I want to try and make a universal style to fit on all the body styles and want the style that most people like.

[jeremy.sears]

I like the fact that the ones on my twister are held to each other with one long screw and no holes had to be cut into the body. That obviously wouldnt work on another gun without the center milled out. but you could make that at any angle and any milling design

[can'tthink of1]

Eyes on twisters look funky to me because all of the milling is going towards the back, so it seems like the eye covers are always conflicting the milling and I'm one who enjoys flow.

Cyborg style seems like the way to go... sweet sweet cyborg... (i'm hoping the 07 (if there is one) fixes all the little things i dislike abou the 06/05. Or better yet, I'm looking at you andy... you know what I want ;)) but cyborg style is simple and effective.

What other styles were you thinking thou? There is only so much you can do with eye covers, it's just a thing of metal covering some wires lol. I dislike the eye cover idea where the 2 covers connect to eachother just because it doesn't seem very solid. Just the simple one screw up new the detent, and maybe some tab or something that locks the cover into the tub would work. But who knows, i know i've seen eye covers that just have a screw down at the tub and not near the actual eyes, which could work to.

[jeremy.sears]

believe it or not it is pretty solid. I agree with you both about the looks the way mine is, its a bit akward looking but Tarantula made the eyes to the way I had installed the eyes (there was only so many ways to make them) but think of this: with the twister eye covers like mine the worse you could do is strip the hole in the opposite eye cover, you never have to worry about damaging the body which on a twister is pretty fragile when you start cutting into it. you could allways improve on the eye cover aesthetics but I think the basic working design is sound(might even work on other styles of tribals if you drill one hole for the screw to go through one cover to the other side and not have to worry about tapping the body for small threads

[colby8671]

not shure how well it would work but what about eyes covers that were held down by the ball detent? like it had a circle that would go between the ball detent and the body to hold it down. which that would only work if u had dual ball detents but its something to think about.

[can'tthink of1]

The ball detent idea is good, the problem being the detents wouldn't stick into the breech enough anymore, and not many tribals have dual detents. I like the idea because it gets rid of the screws, but would require a lot of work to make it all work right.

For the twister, you aren't drilling into the "twister" part of the milling. There is the whole chunk of metal up by the detent. Also, stripping the screws aren't a huge thing, all current markers have the basic single eye screw and they don't strip very much. I understand what you're saying though, we're just tossing out ideas.

[warpedmephisto]

If I were going to do the Cyborg style, I'd have a single screw (probably 4-40) holding right in the middle of the eye cover, much like on Jeremy's Twister. Then just have a bump on the backside of the eye cover to fit into the groove on a Mephisto body. The through-body screw into the other cover is cool, but you're still looking at drilling a through-hole in a non-Twister bodies. So basically, which do people prefer, angled, or vertical eye covers? I can work out some of the other details.

[jeremy.sears]

I know in my twister had I thought it through I would have prefered a angled coverexcept it would still have to go against the milling so maybe some lines milled into the side?

[Edwin]

I think any eye covers specifically designed for Tribals would be a plus!!!

Having a source to pick them up would be great. Anodized eye covers in the standard Red, Black and Blue would be another Plus.

[outreach]

im going to need a set of eye covers that are milled around the detents in my addicted so i will probly have to send you my body but it will be fairly tricky to do

[MephistoMike]

I like the origninal idea you emailed me about the cyborg style ones. I liked the angled look on 'borgs, egos and whatnot.

[warpedmephisto]

Since the screw will be around the mid-line of the body and not up around the detent, I don't think it will be a problem fitting the eye covers around the detent. I think I'll go with an angled style. I'll try to get a drawing up soon and see what everyone thinks. I'll have them in standard black, blue, red, and probably raw.

[outreach]

see my problem is that my addicted is already drilled in probly the worst spot you can find putting one detent behind the hole and the other infront of it

[Slider25]

Could you make something that would snap onto the detent screw? I like the angled ideas. Mabye with TRIBAL stamped on it.

Like: T
-------R
---------I
-----------B
-------------A
---------------L

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[TheTramp]

I’d want something that uses the holes you already drilled for the e-blade covers, didn’t require longer eye wires, and most importantly didn’t require me sending my gun in.

[silverbullet669]

I would definately be interested in some Tribal specific eye covers at some point in the future. I know the meph im getting will get one and any other 2.2 Tribal I pickup will be needing a set too

[Tesko]

I'll take a gander and say you're familiar with Intimidator "Tribal" style eye covers? I think those would be AWESOME if you got the same design. (Though don't make the edges as sharp as BLAST/Bob Long did, too many times I have cut myself on those covers lol)

[Edwin]

Andy, any progress on the covers???

[warpedmephisto]

No updates, finishing up summer class this week and then maybe I can do something.

[Padre]

I think the angles ones would be best but I'll take whatever you make Andy cuz everything you make is great.