Tribal Feednecks

[Edwin]

I just spoke with Mike at CCM and they are looking into a run of Tribal feed necks for us. Mike said he would call me back this afternoon after he had a chance to speak with Jason. Worst case we will modify their feednecks to match our Tribals.

I will keep yall informed.

Thanks,
Edwin

[TheTramp]

FUCK! I just bit the bullet and got my feed neck modified. Oh well, other than the silver in the cuts it basicly the same thing. :)

[bullschmidt2k3]

kick ass... now I can foucus on making triggers in shop instead of triggers AND feednecks...


still waiting for someone to send me a stock trigger though...

[vaypourus]

Are they going to be offered at a better price than cdarnell's mod? He does top notch work, and I will send my stock feedneck off to him regardless.

[bullschmidt2k3]

I'll definatly get a ccm feedneck no offence cdarnell...

[Edwin]

Don't jump the gun boys!!!!

Last time Have Blue discussed a Tribal run with CCM, it went no where!!!

[bullschmidt2k3]

one can hope!

[shiftycastro]

ccm feedneck to me is highly overrated........if you can mod the stock one with cdarnell and it be just as good.
your just buying the name

[bullschmidt2k3]

and anno...

If I could get any feedneck, I'd probably get like a hybrid, or new designs

[warpedmephisto]

I personally love the CCM feednecks (and cdarnell's for that matter). I hate the twist-lock ones - just too bulky for me. I like the allen adjustment. Lock it in and you're good to go!

[bullschmidt2k3]

I think the twist lock ones look better (at least new designs) but ccm and the checkit feeds work alot better. They look nice too

[cdarnell]

no offence taken boys, I just provide a service. I ahve also been talking with John to get tribal feednecks and have not made much progress either...

I will still offer the feedneck mod for thoes that want it. I would lower the price if I could get the rings cheaper, John charges me 10.00 per ring.

[bullschmidt2k3]

I would lower the price if I could get the rings cheaper, John charges me 10.00 per ring.


damn.... that is pretty steep...

EDIT: Edwin, did they ever call you back?

[TheTramp]

I've got an Intimidator CCM feed sitting here next to the modded stock Tribal one I just got back from cdarnell today.

I can't see ANY reason to pay for a new feed considering the quality of my new modded feed.

[bullschmidt2k3]

because raw aluminum exposed is a bad thing

[TheTramp]

because raw aluminum exposed is a bad thing

considering the amount of exposed raw aluminum I still say I wouldn't pay for another feed.

[vaypourus]

because raw aluminum exposed is a bad thing

You can hardly see the cuts.

[Edwin]

Ok, I think I can make it happen, but it won't happen by them making a Tribal run. It is going to happen with me modifing their Feednecks. So the price is going to be higher than CCMs listed $35.00. They will be more like $45, unless I can figure a way to do it easier.

Craigs method is still cheaper!!!

Is there still any interest???

[bullschmidt2k3]

ugh... 45 is pretty steep I dunno now... I'd buy an unthreaded one for 35...

[Edwin]

because raw aluminum exposed is a bad thing

Craig is getting his Ano line set up. I bet he would be happy to reano it for the people who don't like the exposed aluminum :D

[bullschmidt2k3]

I'd probably pay to get mine modded if I got get it reannoed for pretty cheap... I could mod one myself to be the same if I could get ahold of the collar thingys, I won't do it, because I'd want re anno.

I really like the checkit ones... I wonder if it would be possible to get an unthreaded one...

[Edwin]

I could probably do others but I just started looking into it a bit.

I have some things in the works, as the new TOG has sparked my Paintball addiction a little.

I haven't even played with my new Colt LE6920 (Law Enforcement AR-15). I haven't even been surfing the AR15.com forum in the last few weeks..... ....But I still have 2 ARs on order and they should arrive this month.

[warpedmephisto]

Nice Edwin! We always went the cheaper route with the AK47 and MAC90.

[usagi_tetsu]

*mmm* 5.56 NATO action, now that's what I'm talking about! I love how Colt knocked the kick right out of those rifles with that huge buffer spring in the stock. My M16A2 feels like a really old school Tippmann on my shoulder (though definitely not in the ears... loud!).

[Edwin]

Still a little of topic, but I have a Colt Match AR coming in for a varmint hunt this spring, and I have a Colt LE Commando coming in also. :)

[TheTramp]

I had to leave all my guns in TX with my Father when I moved back to Boston. :(

edit: guns not markers :D

[cdarnell]

Craig is getting his Ano line set up. I bet he would be happy to reano it for the people who don't like the exposed aluminum :D

Once I get it setup and going I would be happy to anno the raw part. I am putting off the cnc mill for a while longer. I hope to get the anno thing going in the next few months, I have been swamped with travel in my real job, so the tribal side buisness has taken a back seat for a bit.

[TheTramp]

Once I get it setup and going I would be happy to anno the raw part. I am putting off the cnc mill for a while longer. I hope to get the anno thing going in the next few months, I have been swamped with travel in my real job, so the tribal side buisness has taken a back seat for a bit.


That sounds great. I'd love to get my Mephy ano'd now that it's all done.

The neck you did, the eye install from warped and the LPRC from Edwin. All it needs not is to be navy blue or something. :D

[Edwin]

Ok boys here is the final word on the CCM feednecks for Tribals!!!!

I have two options:


I can purchase new feednecks and turn Tribal threads. The problem with this is that it will cost extra because I need to spend time re-working the threads. I am thinking $40-$45. The good part is that I don't have to order a shit load of the feednecks.
I can get CCM make Tribal threads, and all I have to do is re-sell them. The price would be just like they state on their site--$35.00 each. The problem is that I need to order a shit load of them. This is the most professional way to get the feednecks. To make this happen I am going to need a commitment from the Tribe to purchase 20 feednecks, maybe more!!! So people are going to have to make pre-orders.
TELL ME WHAT YALL THINK!!!!

You will get to pre-order the color of the neck (Clear or Black---maybe I can get Red and Blue, but that is pushing it, unless I order a shit load more) and the color of the clamping ring (Black, Red, Blue).



ihttp://www.chipleymachine.com/store/images/feedncks_l.jpg

[usagi_tetsu]

Ooh! Put me down for a clear with a blue ring, low-as-they-go-rise.

[bullschmidt2k3]

I'd definatly but one, I'd also buy another one if I buy another tribal someday... I think I'd like a black one with a red collar, becuse the red probably doesn't quite match, but that would still look good.

I don't know If I wan a low rise or a now rise though... those super low rises look like they wouldn't hold the hopper that well..

[warpedmephisto]

I'd get a no-rise clear w/ blue ring. I would possibly get an additional 1 or 2 no-rise, one black w/ black ring, one black w/ red ring. But the first one for sure, and the other 2 maybe later on down the road. Have to see how/which one of my projects turn out.

[bullschmidt2k3]

the no rises kinda scare me, it doesn't look like there'd be alot of "meat" holding onto the hopper, if you know what I mean... Alot of people use ccm feednecks, so I;m not really worried...

[Edwin]

To clarify.

There are 4-styles
Mid-Pro and No-Pro
Mid-Rise and No-Rise

The Mid and No determines the neck height. No neck is low and mid is a little higher.
The Pro is the part that grabs the loader, which on the pro is real short and you will have to cut your loader neck to fit properly. Approximately .400 off a Halo to fit the pros.

Pro=Short clamping section
No=Very short neck
Mid=Medium length neck
rise=normal clamping section length.

So the shortest is No-Pro
The tallest is Mid-Rise.---this one should match the Tribal feednecks the closest.



If I only get 4-5 commitments, I'll have to go with the higher costs. I really need to get about 20 pre-sold. I know that is a lot seeing that we only have 60 current members. :( , but I have to invest a shit load of cash to get them to make a custom run. I guess that is why Haveblue ran into a "roadblock"

[bullschmidt2k3]

so... is it like this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/captainmorgan/feedncks_l.jpg

[Edwin]

The red black one I think was a High-Pro, but they don't list any highs on their site.

It looks like three are pros and one it mid-rise.
Just remember the pros have a short clamping area, and are suppose to be quicker to load when using a halo.

[usagi_tetsu]

Ah, that would translate for mine: clear anno, blue ring, no-pro.

[Edwin]

Yep, I like the no-pro too, and I would be taking at least 4 or 5 for me, but that doesn't count in the 20......

Think it over and let me know what to do.

[bullschmidt2k3]

so, do you have to order them all the same type and color, or can we all get what we want?

[bullschmidt2k3]

wait... who wanted a mid rise? I think I want a no-pro... not sure yet though

[Edwin]

They just told me I need to order 100 pieces I sure hope it isn't 100 of each type!!!!!

[bullschmidt2k3]

oh, I thought u said 20... I dont think we're gonna get 100...

[TheTramp]

I'd have gotten one but I really like the my modded stock feed.

[Edwin]

oh, I thought u said 20... I dont think we're gonna get 100...

No, no, no!!!!!!!

I need to buy at least 100 to get a custom run of Tribal Feedneck from CCM. I will invest in getting 100 from them, but I can't invest all that money without knowing that I can sell at least 20 right off the bat!!!

So I would like a commitment of 20 from the Tribe and I will make a run of 100 with CCM.

[bullschmidt2k3]

oh ,ok. you can probably get 20 sold...

[vaypourus]

How the hell are you going to sell 100?

[bullschmidt2k3]

he only has to sell 20

[vaypourus]

he only has to sell 20

He has to order 100 of them....so unless he wants to have 80 feednecks left, he needs to sell all 100.

[usagi_tetsu]

How the hell are you going to sell 100?

I'm sure he'll eventually get the remaining 80 (as we gotta get 20 of 'em sold before he orders the lot) sold. Tribals are changing hands all the time, and people who may not have wanted a gripping feedneck this year might sell it to someone who wants one next year. And those of us who like grip necks and Tribals may find the funds to acquire more Tribals in the future.

[Edwin]

Yep it is a big risk to purchase 100 as most will sit on the shelf for years!!!!

That is why I want commitments on about 20 before I commit to purchasing 100. I don't mind buying 100, if I know they will eventually sell.

[vaypourus]

That seems like a pretty big risj...considering there are probably less that 3000 left. Of those people that own the tribals, you would have to count on many of them first finding you, and then wanting to purchase one! Thats one out of 300 people!

[Edwin]

But what you have to remember is that some of the people here have multiple Tribals. Someone like shifty might pick up 4 or 5 himself, and one or two here and there could add up to 20, which will be enough for me to get started.

[YORT77]

Well... if Edwin's willing to front it... I'll take one. Not sure on the size, but I'll need some sort of black color scheme for my ninja style. We'll see if it happens.

[sammy]

Dunno how you want to do this, but I'll take a 2 Pros, one No, one Mid (NOT HIGH, yuck!), both in Black/Black. Solid! Thanks for takin' the bullet E, we all appreciate it.

[Ramenjames]

I would buy one , if this happens soon then not right off of the bat , but down the road (no-pro)

[Edwin]

Ok, I am going to make a small purchase just to see how it goes.

I will order black and clear necks in the two sizes
NO-PRO
NO-RISE

I didn't see anyone who wanted the MID-RISE which is the tallest (2").

The NO-PRO seems to be the one everyone wants, so I am getting 10 of them, and 6 of the NO-RISE. Both of these types have the same length on the threaded portion of the feedneck, but the NO-PRO has a shorter loader part so you will have to cut the loader neck.

I figured everyone wants the threaded portion short as possible, and some may want to cut the loader and others my not. So we will have both styles.



IF YOU WANT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THOSE TWO STYPLE, please let me know ASAP, as the order will go in Wednesday.

The price is going to be $40.00, and one I get them in and modify them I will take some pics and put on my site, so you can click and purchase.

Thanks,
Edwin

[can'tthink of1]

Much <3 edwin. I'm probly going to go with the No-Rise, just because the No-pro, I'd have to shave my hoppers, and I don't like the idea of that. Anyway, you are only cutting off about a cm or so with the no pro right?

[Edwin]

The no-pro is a 1/2" shorter than the no-rise.

CCM sizes are 2" for the High-Rise one. 1.5" for the no-rise, and 1" for the no-pro. You have to cut .400 off a halo to make it fit the no-pro.

[can'tthink of1]

I really don't like the idea of cutting down the hopper. Also, I don't like the idea of only that much gripping the halo. But then agian, I don't think it would make a difference in strength, just adaptbility.

[bullschmidt2k3]

sweet. I thought you had to buy like 100 at a time?

[bakerboy4679]

60th post on this thread woohoo!

[bullschmidt2k3]

lol, am I crazy or does it say that you have the 61st post? lol... :dodgy:

[bakerboy4679]

62th post woohooo!!!

[Edwin]

sweet. I thought you had to buy like 100 at a time?

I had two choices....
Buy a custom run of Tribal Feednecks with a quantity of 100 and sell for $35.00 each

or

Buy a few and modify them myself and sell at $40.00 each.


I don't have the cash and I don't see the need to invest in the 100 quantity so I will mod them myself and charge $5 extra for that service.

[Edwin]

62th post woohooo!!!

STOP CLUTTERING MY THREAD!!!

[TheTramp]

Shame he wont give you a deal on like 25 or something for you to mod.

[Edwin]

He is giving me a deal!!!

But the time and cost to tool up and modify the feednecks adds to the cost of the feednecks by themself.

So I have to pass that cost to the customer :(

If I knew I could sell 100 in a year then I would commit, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

[TheTramp]

Ah, well that's good. At least it isn't the full cost plus your effort on top.

[bullschmidt2k3]

Well, I'll still buy one for $40 then I guess, just not as immediatly as I thought... I can't wait :)

62th post

hehe, you're dumb...

[Edwin]

Just placed the order for feedneck and a few on/off tank asas!!!

[Edwin]

I should be able to ship feedneck next week, as I have everything needed to mod the feednecks in stock, and as soon as they make it to New Orleans from California, I can pop them right out.

If you want to pre-order, just send a $40.00 (+2 for shipment) to edwin@tribal-paintball.com via paypal. Since I won't have them on my site for a week or two.

[bullschmidt2k3]

cool, I finally got a job, so I'll probably be buying a norise when I get my first paycheck. Maybe my second one...

[sammy]

Edwin - help me remember: what's the difference, in theory, behind a factory direct CCM feedneck and the one's that you are going to mod? I quickly scanned the recent emails in this thread in an attempt to find out, but I didn't get anywhere. Please inform.

[Have Blue]

I had two choices....
Buy a custom run of Tribal Feednecks with a quantity of 100 and sell for $35.00 each

or

Buy a few and modify them myself and sell at $40.00 each.

I don't have the cash and I don't see the need to invest in the 100 quantity so I will mod them myself and charge $5 extra for that service.

A very wise decision. I tried the quantity route years ago with the NW feednecks, and I've still got a small pile of them sitting on the shelf.

[cdarnell]

Edwin - help me remember: what's the difference, in theory, behind a factory direct CCM feedneck and the one's that you are going to mod? I quickly scanned the recent emails in this thread in an attempt to find out, but I didn't get anywhere. Please inform.

CCM does not make a tribal feedneck, edwin is adding the tribal threads to a ccm feed neck

[Edwin]

Sammy, to answer your question: I am buying CCM feednecks just like you can off their website, and then I will have to modify them to fit Tribals.

I have to chuck them into my Lathe and Turn new threads for Tribals Markers, since Tribals are .808-28 threads, which no other Marker in the world has these threads.......so we are fucked.

When it comes to Feedneck, we only have 4 choices.
1. Original Tribal Feednecks
2. ASP NW Tribal Feednecks (I like the orings!!!)
3. Cdarnell Modified Stock Tribal Feednecks (Excellent mod, many satisfied customers)
4. Modified CCM Feedneck

This is nothing more than progress by the members of the TOG!!! We are advancing an otherwise dead marker line.

[bullschmidt2k3]

so, are you buying unthreaded feednecks, or re-threading, already threaded ones?

[Edwin]

Ummm, does it mater???

To answer your question. I am buying threaded feedneck, and rethreading to fit tribals!!!

There are pros and cons to this method.
Pros: Bare aluminum to make the loctite work better!!!
Cons: Bare aluminum is softer than Ano Aluminum, but this is misleading. Ano Aluminum is only anoed to a thickness of 0.001" so I don't think you get much added strength on that thin of a surface treatment.

I was expecting them today. I guess maybe tomorrow they will arrive.

I better take my camera to work!!!

[bullschmidt2k3]

I dunno, I was just wondering...

[Edwin]

A little delay on the Feednecks. CCM shipped them last Friday (4-8-05) and they will take about 5 days by UPS to get them to me. I wasn't expecting them to take so long to ship (over a week). It took two emails just to get a reply and when he did reply it was to say "they shipped today" Bummer!!!

Hopefully, I should see them Friday.

[Edwin]

Good and Bad news.

Good News:
I recieved a shipment of Feednecks from CCM today.
I modified two of them and they came out really nice!!!! :D Talk about a no rise on a Tribal!!!!

Bad News:
CCM only shipped No-Rise Feednecks. Not one No-Pro was in the box. Also I never recieved any Blue Clamps.

This is what I have for immediate shipment:
No-Rise Feednecks with Black or Clear Necks, and Black or Red Clamps.

http://www.tribal-paintball.com/edwin247/tccmfn1.jpg


http://www.tribal-paintball.com/edwin247/tccmfn2.jpg

[can'tthink of1]

That sucks they didn't come man. I wonder why... maybe they just wanted to ship those out now.

They turned out really well imo. They seem somewhat lower than the stock feedneck which is nice.

What all colors did you get?

[Edwin]

They said they didn't have stock in No-Pros. They will let me know Monday what sort of delivery I should expect. He also wanted me to mod them and try a couple out this weekend....you know beat them up!!!!

Colors??? Read my post!!! The answer is one post above yours.....:Pounder:

[can'tthink of1]

For colors, I mean will you start carrying other colors? Or maybe anno'ing them yourself?

[Edwin]

I doubt I will re-ano any of these.

CCM only offers the above colors.

[bullschmidt2k3]

Sweetness, I'm gonna get a black and red one as soon as I have the cash. Hehe, the Norise was the one I wanted anyway...

[Edwin]

Ok, CCM is sending a few No-Pro Feedneck for me to play with. They won't have the threads that I have been using, but since I cut all of their threads off and re-tap brand new threads, I guess it doesn't matter which Feednecks they send me.

So I will have a few No-Pros coming my way to test.

P.S. Ummmmmmmmmmmmm Sales are real slow. The introduction of two new items, and zero hits to my paypal account!!!! What gives??? I know alot of you said your interested.

[bullschmidt2k3]

I am interested. I start working on wednesday finally, once I sart getting a few paychecks, then I'll definatly be buying a few things. don't worry

[usagi_tetsu]

Sorry Ed, the Jackal/G3 purchases tapped me for the month. The TILPR, will freaking cool, is not on the list, but the feednecks, bolts, and ram springs are bearing up under inspection.

[bullschmidt2k3]

Sorry Ed, the Jackal/G3 purchases tapped me for the month. The TILPR, will freaking cool, is not on the list, but the feednecks, bolts, and ram springs are bearing up under inspection.

yea, as soon s I get some money, it's gonna be a no rise, some ss screws, ram spring, and eventually a bolt.

[can'tthink of1]

Hey edwin, soon as I decide what to do with my mini-twister, you'll have some money. Right now I'm trying to figure out how I'm gonna go about this mini project, and I'm thinking just taking after you and keeping the asa position, but I'll probly need a custom lprc, which I'll add on extra $$ for the extra trouble, and then a feedneck of some sort, probly just a no rise, and oh, a ss asa screw. Maybe a t-shirt just for kicks. I'm also waiting to get some things fixed and sold, but I will be picking up some stuff from ya, don't worry.

[beggarx]

i just got my bbt yesterday (ebay) so im not sure what i need to do with it. i gassed it up and threw in a new 9v and it shot great in the backyard. ill have pics later today after work.

ps: im brand new to tog!

[bullschmidt2k3]

that's good to here, alot of times people have problems when they first get them, simply because the old owner got rid of it because they didn't know how to maintain it...

welcome to the TOG!

[Edwin]

Maybe a t-shirt just for kicks.

Haha, you will be the third owner of one of those snazzy tees.

I sure thought they would go a bit quicker than that. I am glad I only bought XL to start.

I'll take care of you on that custom LPRC!!!

[bullschmidt2k3]

lol, I might buy a t-shirt some day if I for some reason end up with too much money some day...





...wait... too much money???

[Edwin]

i just got my bbt yesterday (ebay) so im not sure what i need to do with it. i gassed it up and threw in a new 9v and it shot great in the backyard. ill have pics later today after work.

ps: im brand new to tog!

Beggarx, Welcome to the TOG and the Tribe. This thread is about Feednecks. Use this link to introduce yourself to the Tribe.

http://www.tribal-paintball.com/tog/showthread.php?t=1

[can'tthink of1]

Haha, you will be the third owner of one of those snazzy tees.

I sure thought they would go a bit quicker than that. I am glad I only bought XL to start.

I'll take care of you on that custom LPRC!!!

:Party06:

Rock on, thou XL is 2 sizes too big for me, I wear a medium lol. I might be up for a custom mini bolt too, if ya can do that.

[warpedmephisto]

I think if you would have made sizes smaller than that, you would have gotten more sales. Not exactly everyone is an XL kinda person. I personally wear small.

[Seawolf]

edwin...check ur pm's

me wanna necky..u shippy to andy...me then be happy

[Edwin]

Hey, I have No-Pro Style feednecks coming in. They should make it to me by next Monday. I will be gone, but they should be available soon........CCM is shipping tomorrow.

Thanks,
Edwin

[lotus_esprit5]

Haha, you will be the third owner of one of those snazzy tees. they are snazzy tees! but XL...no thanks. I'm like warped, i wear a small, I'm a fast skinny kid. The smalls make my bulging muscles pop out lol. If you can make a batch of smalls by the time i order a CCM feedneck from you (in a few weeks) I'll snag one off you!

[Edwin]

I might look into it.
Maybe they can make 3 bk and 3 white of each size.

Yall would rather the logo on the front or back???

[lotus_esprit5]

logo on front.

[Edwin]

Hey I got the No-Pros in stock now.

Unfortunately I don't know what to say about CCM, again they shipped me Feedneck with black rings, so I still don't have all the colors that I should have. I guess I will just have to buy rings in the colors that I need.

Anyway I have No-Pro in Black and Clear Neck with Black Rings. I will try to get them on the website in the next couple days.