Edwin's LPR

[vaypourus]

Edwin-

This is mostly directed at you, but I would like to see other people's reviews, praises, or complaints about this product. I figured this would help others as well. I am currently stuck trying to figure out which setup I want to go with for my addicted.

How would you rate the recharge rate/flow of this compared to one of Airsoldier's LPR adapters and say, a Palmer Micro Rock combination?

Will this work with the Maddman valves?

Is this user serviceable?

Is your LPR aluminum, and can it be disassembled and annodized with the rest of the gun?

Any other issues/problems that people have had?

When are you looking to have these back in stock?

[warpedmephisto]

I can answer some questions...

As in flow/recharge rate, both the MicroRock and Edwin's LPRC are about equal. I personally like the hosed version of LPRs better, but thats just coming from a tech standpoint where you can guage the LPR while fully cycling the marker.

Both work excellent with the Maddman Rocket valves!

Very user servicable - easy to breakdown/clean/maintain.

All aluminum, so you can annodize it any color you wish.

Only problem that I have had was the piston pin slipping off of the valve pin during rapid fire/recharge, but that has long since been fixed by Edwin. The thing is flawless now!

Only Edwin can answer the stock question.

Both are excellent choices IMO, just what style or look you want your marker to have, and of course the added volume of the LPRC.

[jeremy.sears]

I have been wanting a LPRC for awhile now because my trifade doesnt have a place to screw in the hose nipple and I didnt want to do the thing with a LPR in my asa. that and I think it will look really nice with the right color ano and well edwin made it so you know it will be quality

[Edwin]

Hello all.

First of all, I planned to make a day of manufacturing LPRC today, but some fucking idiot ran over my Cast Aluminum mailbox, so I am at work welding and painting a mailbox instead of machining LPRC. I should be able to get working on LPRC this afternoon, and hopefully tomorrow.

Yes they are aluminum, but if your going to get them anoed a special color (other than polished black, red, clear, or blue), I would order one un-anoed and send it to the ano guy with your marker.

I should have stock of un-anoed LPRC is about a week (or sooner). After I get the machining done, they are going off for ano. So another week or two and I should have full anoed LPRC for sale.


Ok I agree and disagree with Andy on some of his statements. I agree that it is easier to measure the LP with a in-line 1/8" hose gauge on the LPR/LPR Adapter setup. My LPRC needs a RAM gauge to measure the LP, so you can't cycle the marker. The way I measure the LP pressure (while testing new LPRs) is on my Mephy that has a ASP 8-32 hose barb attached and connected to a LP gauge. The gauge just hangs there. There is one barb and a hose that connect directly to my LP gauge. So, I don't use a ram gauge and I can cycle the marker to see drop off.


As for the refresh, I don't agree with Andy. Not that other LPRs aren't great (or even better than my LPRC), but the Tribals have a design flaw for extreme LP flow. Take a look at the 8-32 hose barb, do you notice how small that damn hole is??? Well if you are using that hose with a great LPR and LPR adapter that is where your drop off is coming from. You can put the best LPR in the world on your Tribal but never fix that problem.

This is where the LPR mounted to the ASA adapter, and a LPC comes in to play. The LPR/LPC system elminates most of that refesh restriction of the 8-32 hose barb and other restrictions in the tribal. The added volue of the LPC greatly reduces this problem. It is hard to see the problem with a gauge mounted to a hose as it is before the restriction, but the LPC adds volume right where you need it.

Now for the LPRC. It adds volume right where you need it, and it adds a super fast refresh. The LPRC isn't designed around a little bicycle valve, it has a large valve that has a hugh air passage that is much greater than the air passage of the 8-32 hose barb or even the air passages of the Tribal frame, the Parker Noid, and any other LP passages that the Tribal has!!! The only restrictions for LP are from the Marker itself.

So for a Tribal (in my biased opinion) there is no equal!!!

Furthermore, the first LPRC that I sold were considered PROTOTYPES, and they do have one more flaw (a small one). The internal bore where the piston moves back and forth wasn't polished, like the new LPRC will be. That is the exact thing I am trying to finish this weekend. So if there was any limitation to the LPRC it is the ease of piston movement in the Prototypes, which is being eliminated by the new LPRC.

Finally, if you want to keep your marker in stock form and return it to stock form (if you ever decide to sell it). The LPRC works like the MacDev LPR, just remove the AOC and put in the LPRC, and vise versa for resale. No modification is required to install a LPRC, and you don't have to fight with that locktited 8-32 grub screw.

If I had a Dozen extra LPRC, they would be on all of my Tribals.


Another good thought. You could tap the side of the LPRC, and add a hose barb for mounting a gauge or you could mount one of my micro guages right on the LPRC if you really wanted then, you would have a direct readout of the LP value.

Well back to work!!!

[usagi_tetsu]

I just like that he admits his opinions of his own products is biased. =D


I don't know about the LPRCs (still waiting on mine), but Edwin's bolts are well worth what he's charging. They perform above and beyond the stock bolts, and are made (besides the ones he's advertising as "badly machined") rather well.

[vaypourus]

Any discount for getting a raw, disassembled one? ;)

[Edwin]

Yeah, 95.00 for a un-anoed one.

[Edwin]

Otay boys and girls after a hard days work polishing the fuckers. Here is a quick picture of the future. I just got finished cleaning off all that damn polishing paste!!! I still have to finish the other parts but hopefully in a week they will be going off to the Anodizer.

If you want a color match please get me a sample of the part so I can see what they can do.

http://www.tribal-paintball.com/edwin247/bunch_of_lprc.jpg

Notice the Matte finished ones to the lower right-hand corner.

P.S. I also polished a couple rams while I was at it.

[warpedmephisto]

Thats a nice little batch you have going on there. Fire up the assembly line!

[bullschmidt2k3]

dang... that should last you a while... are all those rams for your tribals?

[Edwin]

Yeah the rams are mine, but the LPRC are for the Tribe!!! :)

[vaypourus]

When are you going to make some aftermarket rams for us?

[Edwin]

hehehe. umm that is a good one.

I am not sure how many I would sell since most people have one already. A LPRC is something that you need since we are stuck with AOCs in a stock marker.

[usagi_tetsu]

That is a good question, though: how often do Tribal rams go totally bad and have to be replaced? Having someone make them would take one more piece off the list of "things you can't get replaced".


And the matte LPRCs? Nice Edwin, very very nice! I can't wait to get this girl assembled and off to anno for the caffeine treatment: Black Mana of the Gods Dr. Pepper Matte Red.

[shiftycastro]

i would pay extra for a ram to be made .......just because some of mine are beat to hell

[vaypourus]

Yup....me too

I am afraid to see how many threads are broken/stripped on the addicted's ram...

[Edwin]

Ok, I will think about it, but I will need time!!!
As I need to start restocking all my other items which are pretty much depleted.

[TheTramp]

One thing you might do is see why the New Designz ram assembly makes such a difference. It made SIGNIFICANT improvments to my inpulse.

Of course the Tribal ram assembly might already have some of thse fixes. I have no idea.

http://www.newdesignz.com/Impulse_7.htm

[karma crx]

lmk if your going to sell the rams, im in need of one.

crx_dx@hotmail.com

thanks
-joseph

[r a b]

Edwin-

This is mostly directed at you, but I would like to see other people's reviews, praises, or complaints about this product. I figured this would help others as well. I am currently stuck trying to figure out which setup I want to go with for my addicted.

How would you rate the recharge rate/flow of this compared to one of Airsoldier's LPR adapters and say, a Palmer Micro Rock combination?

Will this work with the Maddman valves?

Is this user serviceable?

Is your LPR aluminum, and can it be disassembled and annodized with the rest of the gun?

Any other issues/problems that people have had?

When are you looking to have these back in stock?

Maddman valves are the best. Everybody needs one!

[bakerboy4679]

This is a pretty old thread Rabrown.
The last post was in May 2005.

Just so you know..........