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usagi_tetsu
02-09-2007, 03:55 PM
Okay, this is pathetic, we're getting nothing but crickets on the net here. And I'm just as guilty as you guys of not posting much on here, so let's start rectifying the situation with some good old project posting.

Of the many projects I've got going on, Project Tippmann is one of the larger ones. Essentially what I'm trying to do is gather one of every model of Tippmann paint marker up to the A5 and C3. Yeah, I'm not going for any of the ACT, X7, or Triumph line that the new Tippmann LLC has brought out, as to me they're just not above the salt. Anyway, so I've got quite a collection so far - Model 98 Custom (my first marker ever, and still playing with it), Model 98, SL-68 I (two of these, one with the metal pump handle), SL-68 II, Pro-Lites (two of these as well), Carbine, and a .68 Special that used to be a SMG-60. Still missing a few here and there (Mini-lite, Pro-Carbine, both SMG's, and the newer A5 and C3), and working on the ones I do have to make 'em more playable. The SL-68 II is getting a 12-gram quick changer and a feed port for 10-round tubes to turn it into a stock classer. One of the Pro-Lites has become my Old Skool setup for when I just want something a little different that works - ceramic barrel, gas-thru stock, remote, and 4+1 harness carrying a CO2 tank. It draws looks like a Tribal, especially when I'm smoking people out left and right with it.

The ones I've been working on lately, though, are the two Model 98's. My M98C has lovingly earned the name Anvil for drop-dead reliability, as I've played with her for going on 3/4's of a decade now. The Model 98 is a recent purchase, a good deal found and snatched with extreme prejudice. Now I already had my M98C semi-flinger all tuned in right where I wanted her, so I really didn't need another semi-auto of roughly the same shape and performance, but I did want to grab an original Model 98 for completeness. So I decided to do something different with it and went for the ASP pump conversion kit. The best part about this (other than the "you have a Model 98... pump?" reaction I'm expecting to get) is that since the conversion kit comes with its own modified valve, I get a brand new CVX valve for the Anvil. And boy, does she need it! I think I've cycled her close to half a million times in all the years I've been flinging paint, not to mention the valve retention hole I've stripped of all threads, so she's due for a new valve. Plus, as I haven't had much time in the last couple of years to give her a good cleaning, it's a great excuse to pop her open and check everything.

So last night, that is just what I did - popped open both the beauties (the Model 98 I got is in pristine condition, doubt it's ever been played with) to start swapping parts. I had a nasty surprise when I opened up the Anvil, sad to say, as I apparently had neglected her for far longer than any sane person really should: there was mold growing in just about every crevice on that marker. I was startled at first, but then I remembered exactly when the last three times I had played with her (hell, played paintball at all) before now. February 2005, June 2005, and April 2006, and none of those times did I clean her very well before just tossing her into my paintball bag at the end of the day. Needless to say, everything was very gunky in that poor marker body. Oh well, nothing some Simple Green won't fix. And as part of this project is to strip off my nasty rattlecan job and give her a good professional powdercoating, it was going that way anyway.


So waddya guys think? Want some pics of the progress so far? I didn't get a shot of the Anvil before I dunked her in the hot and soapy water, but I can do some in progress shots if you want.

DeuceX
02-10-2007, 01:15 PM
Haha nice, I've always loved the Tippmann markers. My friend recently picked up a X-7 and although its interesting, I'd rather play with a 98C myself. I have been considering doing the pump conversion. I've alaways been a sucker for pumps heh. Let me know how that conversion goes.

Joe

8-ball
02-10-2007, 02:58 PM
I was wanting a pump conversion too, but I never seen a place to order them. I guess ill do some research

DeuceX
02-10-2007, 03:18 PM
Hmmm I can't quite remember where it was, possibly chippley's machine(sp?). I'll try to look it up soon and give you a link. It was fairly inexpensive if I remember right, which I am obviously not doing right now hah.

Joe

silverbullet669
02-10-2007, 05:58 PM
ASP has the pump conversion for the 98

http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=ASP-M98PUMPKIT&Category_Code=OTHERACCESSORIES

8-ball
02-10-2007, 07:51 PM
thanks for the link but i dont think im reay to put another 100 dollars into my tippmann

8-ball
02-10-2007, 07:53 PM
whoa ! nvm i see its not $110 anymore its just 55... ok nvm forget the c-3 right now .. but yeah you were planning on getting one right? It is a nice gun my friend has one and he hasn't been able to count the 50k shots on the propane by the time he runs a few cases through it his dad takes off with his propane bottle lol. I like it and i will get one eventually

DeuceX
02-11-2007, 12:33 AM
Doh shoulda known it was an ASP product. Maybe when I get my 98c back from my nephew and have some spare cash I'll throw the pump kit on mine. It's a very intruiging idea.

Joe

usagi_tetsu
02-12-2007, 07:58 AM
So far the pump conversion looks really straight forward: replace the valve and the cocking knob, screw in the provided barrel, attach the pump arm, and then try the different main springs until you get velocity and no burping sounds (hammer bounce). And all the parts are there, springs and everything. Even for the original price of $110 that I paid for it, it was worth it: barrel, pump stop, pump handle, pump arm, cocking knob, brand new CVX valve with blowback stopper, barrel adapters for both old and new style 98 threads, and 3 different strength main springs. If I have time tonight (had drill this past weekend, so maybe not, but hope springs eternal) I'll be working on these two some more, and will let you know where I get to.

usagi_tetsu
02-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Okay, finally some updates:

-still have yet to give the Anvil the good scrubbing she deserves, but the time is getting closer to that happening. Once that's done, I'll be putting her back together with the addition of the Cyclone kit. Figured it was time to give it a try and see how these things fared.

-the majority of pieces for the Pump conversion are in the body and really all I'm lacking right now is the gas system. See, I just can't be normal and turn a perfectly good M98 into a pump, no, I gotta decide to get really fancy with it's whole gas system. Found an old, OLD T-stock that I'm going to use as a semi-drop to mount the tank facing forward. On all my markers, I have to have a "butt stock" - something to brace the marker up against my shoulder for stability - but I've always liked the idea of pointing your CO2 tank forward so that in between shots the liquid drains away from the valve 'cause most people point their barrels at the ground when they're not firing. Hence my plan - the T-stock gives me my butt-stock, and it allows me to move the ASA forward and flip it around. On top of all this, I really lucked out when I bought the M98 in the first place, as the previous owner had mated an anti-siphon 20oz. to its ASA.

Anyway, putting the pieces together was cake, I did it after my medieval armoured combat practice last night while sitting on the couch and recovering my exercises whilst my friends sat around my living room and talked. Trust me, after running around in 60lbs. of medieval armour for an hour or so, you don't have much energy or mental functions, so when I say it was easy, IT WAS EASY. Still have yet to get to the hard part of testing out which spring strength would work best, but want to get my gas setup going first. This is going to be a head turner when I'm done with it.

usagi_tetsu
02-22-2007, 08:42 AM
More updates:

The Anvil got scrubbed - FINALLY - last night, removing most of the gunky paint/mold leftovers in all the cracks and crevices. Then spent a speedy 10 minutes slapping all the parts on, pressure-testing, and then function checking the new Cyclone kit. I think this marker is going to last me another 6 years of hard use, easily (thanks for the spring kits, Craig!). Still looking at removing all of the paint off of her and sending her off to a professional powder coater to get a new prettying up.

The pumper got mostly together this morning in a fit of insomnia. The only issue is a slight wiggle in the t-stock setup, so plans are this weekend to take it apart and do some experimenting to find out what's going on and fix the problem. Still have yet to pressure test the system and cycle it, but that is to happen soon.

Anyone know of a good, inexpensive (ie: free) photohosting website that I can link off of?

r a b
02-22-2007, 02:47 PM
Just to let you guys know MaddmanProducts just signed a deal with Tippmann. We will have a new store opening www.shoptippmann.com and you guys know Craig and I will cut you all a great deal on anything you want.