aoc

[oxygeneater]

which way do iturn my aoc to lower the pressure

[Dances with Tribals]

Counter clockwise---raises

Clockwise---lowers

[DeuceX]

Be careful when reinstalling everything, if the AOC isn't lined up right when you crank down the ASA screw it'll bite into the AOC and damage it!

Also be sure to read over the Tribal Manual (Left of the Make Donation up top ^^^) if you haven't before!

[Dances with Tribals]

Be careful when reinstalling everything, if the AOC isn't lined up right when you crank down the ASA screw it'll bite into the AOC and damage it!

Also be sure to read over the Tribal Manual (Left of the Make Donation up top ^^^) if you haven't before!

QFT the manual is the tog members best friend! And as long as you go slow and don't force the asa screw in you'll be fine.

[oxygeneater]

i have the aoc turned almost all the way off and my gun is still leaking between the sylinoid and the body any other suggestions

[oxygeneater]

the seal between the two is brand new and my hpr is almost all the way off too.

[Dances with Tribals]

Hmm are you sure its not leaking out from your ram area? Did you check all of your ram o-rings? Also if you use a little bit of thread tape and/or dow 55 that will help you get a better seal as well.

Lastly is your noid blown?

[oxygeneater]

it is coming out through the two little milled air release under the noid. and i dont think it is the noid cause it still shoots fine it just leaks a little

[Dances with Tribals]

it is coming out through the two little milled air release under the noid. and i dont think it is the noid cause it still shoots fine it just leaks a little

you may have some bad o-rings in the noid itself. Did you check that?

[oxygeneater]

no i did not take that apart i figured since the leak was before it and it shoots ok that that was not it

[Dances with Tribals]

I'd try that and see if it helps. You may not be able to tell by looking at the o-rings if they are bad or not though since the tiniest nick can cause a leak. Id just make sure they are well lubed.

[oxygeneater]

all th seals in the noid look ok

[Dances with Tribals]

Are they well lubed?

[oxygeneater]

yeah they arei am replacing all the rings on the ram and aoc again maybe i nicked one

[Dances with Tribals]

The only other thing i can think of is put small dabs of liquid soap around the area you think the leak is coming from so you can pinpoint the source.

[oxygeneater]

damn i broke the valve stem oring and the otherone i had has a crack.

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol well there you go. Now you know where your leak is coming from!

[DeuceX]

Gah tuff luck... well that's a good excuse to pick up a rocket valve!

If it works, don't mess with it. If it breaks, replace it with something better!

[Dances with Tribals]

Gah tuff luck... well that's a good excuse to pick up a rocket valve!

If it works, don't mess with it. If it breaks, replace it with something better!

Im glad you said that. I need to order mine!

[oxygeneater]

is this what I need to replace the stock valve "Maddman Rocket Valve for Tribal/BM2k"

[Dances with Tribals]

Yes it is! :ThumbsU3:

[oxygeneater]

Low Pressure Regulator and Chamber LPRC from edwin what about that do I need it to replace the stock parts and make it work right again

[Dances with Tribals]

That would work well. Any of edwins aoc alternatives would work good.

[Dances with Tribals]

I like the LPRC as you just pull out the AOC and put in the LPRC.

Both the TILPR and the LPR Adapter require some sort of mod/extra effort to install.

I like the TILPR, as it is the neatest and it actuall adds more volume than the orginal AOC.

The LPRC is probably the best.


There you go.............

[Edwin]

I say this a lot and people probably get pissed, but....

You really need a set of gauges to see what pressure your AOC is running at. Leaky noid can be caused by a few things, such as AOC set too high, nicked AOC orings (high pressure into the Low pressure chamber), and/or the noid itself.

If you had a AOC gauge, you can see what pressure the AOC is set to. Then you can start determining what is causing what.

You need the following:
HP Gauge that fits between the vertical HP regulator and the ASA.
LP gauge that replaces the AOC Cap
All Tribal Tools
Pocket Chrony

It is difficult to be a Tribal Airsmith without Tribal tools.

The AOC is usually set pretty accurate and rarely need any adjustment. It is usually something else that cause this problem like bad orings, improperly lubed, or spiking HPR.

Oh yeah --- WELCOME TO THE TRIBE :D

[oxygeneater]

I wish my car was fixed I would just drive it down to you edwin i am only 2 hours away in Lafayette

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol with gas prices where they are now you'd prolly spend more driving there than it would cost to just chuck it the mail for 2 day delivery. Hell being so close it'd prolly only take a day to get it.

[DeuceX]

Good point on the gauges there Edwin. If using an aftermarket Cocker LPR find yourself a guage that sits in between 2 pieces of LP hose.

Sadly I have all the tools but no air right now (co2)... I live so far out in the boonies it's the only option I have, yet I've never had a problem shooting co2, just have to know what you're doing.

[oxygeneater]

You have a good point there but I have to go that way sometime soon anyway. My divorce is going on in mobile alabama and I love Harrah's i always win there

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol harrahs FTW. But sorry bout the divorce.

[oxygeneater]

don'tbe sorry it was my idea that one is flippin crazy. I do meant my head now spins 360 degrees

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol i have my share of crazy exes. In fact all my exes are crazy! :Nevous2:

[oxygeneater]

ok I have a mad man on the way as well as in tilpr so hopefully that will fix my problems and I have gagues i just have to find them i stopped playing for 3 years and everything got packed away.

[Dances with Tribals]

sweet that should make a good marker right there. itll be running butter smooth in no time!

[oxygeneater]

now i just have to save up the rest of the stuff i want and just ship or drop off with edwin and let him install untill he would be satisfied with it

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol yea that'll guarentee it working in short order. Shifty also tunes tribals for a small fee. Ive had some done by him before.

[oxygeneater]

i want to buy shifties mini mef. but I have to save up for that one too.

[DeuceX]

Shifty is deff the defacto Tribal man when it comes to heavily moddified Tribals. It's sad that he has to sell much of his awesome collection off :(

[Edwin]

I wish my car was fixed I would just drive it down to you edwin i am only 2 hours away in Lafayette

2.5 Hours.

I would be happy to help, and just in case we can't fix that AOC then I bet I have the right part just sitting in stock!!! :DevilSmok

[oxygeneater]

I would be happy to help, and just in case we can't fix that AOC then I bet I have the right part just sitting in stock!!!
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I already have your tilpr orderedso we shouldhave the right parts also i ordered a rocket valve

[oxygeneater]

by the wayi am still looking for a double trigger frame too so if anyone knows where to get one drop me a line

[oxygeneater]

All right I have replaced and lubed every oring and sliding part and it is still leaking do you think my hpr could be out of wack it is a palmers stabilizer. I tried to open it but I can not get it to unscrew. and i don't know where to find a breakdown incase something falls out.

[Dances with Tribals]

Shifty is deff the defacto Tribal man when it comes to heavily moddified Tribals. It's sad that he has to sell much of his awesome collection off :(

Not its not cause then I get to buy them!

[Dances with Tribals]

All right I have replaced and lubed every oring and sliding part and it is still leaking do you think my hpr could be out of wack it is a palmers stabilizer. I tried to open it but I can not get it to unscrew. and i don't know where to find a breakdown incase something falls out.

That could be it. But without looking at the marker myself its hard to picture where the leak is coming from.

[oxygeneater]

underneath the noid there is the 5 holes in the shape of a box with one in the middle. the air is coming from the one in the middle. (i took the noid off and put a little air to it.) it is coming out of the hole pretty fast. My aoc is turned all the way off to as far as I could turn it. does that mean the lpr has failed?

[Dances with Tribals]

I'd say its either your lpr, noid, or hpr

[Dances with Tribals]

Are you sure your hpr reg isnt turned up all the way and your noid is bleeding off all the pressure so it doesnt blow?

[oxygeneater]

it has + and - on the ottom and I turned it toward the - i hope that is the right way. Please don't tell me I am a moron and turned it the wrong way.

[Dances with Tribals]

lol well it looks like you turned it the righ way, but since your leaking anyway why not turn it the other way and see what happens.............

[Dances with Tribals]

Hey heres a cheap double trigger frame for only $15

http://www.tribal-paintball.com/tog/showthread.php?t=1837

[oxygeneater]

now everything leaks i have to go buy some new teflon tape.do you thing this could all be because i have a hp tank

[Dances with Tribals]

No hp tank wont be the cause of it. I'd say you either have a faulty aoc or a blown noid. If it still leaks when your new lpr and valve get there then its your noid.

[oxygeneater]

thanks guys i really apreciate the help I will keep you psted on the progress. Now i have to go try to find the leak on my other gun.

[Dances with Tribals]

thanks guys i really apreciate the help I will keep you psted on the progress. Now i have to go try to find the leak on my other gun.

LMAO..............time for round 2!

[oxygeneater]

the other one is ging to be a pain in the butt cause I don't have guys like you to help me unless you are well versed in other guns. and just so you know I am not betraying the tribe i bought this gun at a major deal to fix and resell to buy more tribals.

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol well what marker is it? I was a techie at my local field for a few years so theres a chance I may have worked on one like it.

[oxygeneater]

2003 dark angel with angel air

[Dances with Tribals]

the other one is ging to be a pain in the butt cause I don't have guys like you to help me unless you are well versed in other guns. and just so you know I am not betraying the tribe i bought this gun at a major deal to fix and resell to buy more tribals.

Lol and plus I doubt theres anyone here who only has tribals.

[oxygeneater]

the leak is coming out between the flash tank and the trigger frame

[Dances with Tribals]

That sounds like you blew an oring in the flash tank.

[oxygeneater]

ichecked that it looks fine and if it helps i checked the lpr it is at 90 and i can adjust if from the hpr so i guess it is ok

[Dances with Tribals]

What output pressure is your flash set at?

[oxygeneater]

how do i check that?

[oxygeneater]

by the way i am on aim if yall wanna look me up my name is trblpntbal

[Dances with Tribals]

Nevermind. Do you have new batteries?

[oxygeneater]

yeah the batts were changed at the shop that i bought it from

[Dances with Tribals]

I bet your main seal is blown. It may look okay but sometimes you cant tell by eyesight. Id say make sure all your o-rings are well lubed and if that does not work check to see if your piston seat is fitted correctly. If still no go id try getting a rebuilt kit from here:

http://www.fixmyangel.com/catalog-section13

[oxygeneater]

Ha I have that kit i got it when I bought the angel too kit

[Dances with Tribals]

Lol well try replacing your main seal and your orings and make sure they are well lubed. Did you check to see if your piston is seated correctly?

[oxygeneater]

i have not taken it apart cause I did not know wht I was doing

[Dances with Tribals]

Oh well i'd take it to your local store and have them take it apart and replace all your orings and your main seal cause i bet thats what it prolly is.

[oxygeneater]

i took the flash tank off replaced the seals and lubed well and still leaks

[Dances with Tribals]

And your piston is seated correctly?

[Dances with Tribals]

Your rocket pin could be bent as well. The only thing I can recommend is sending it in to fixmyangel.com or having it fixed at an angel tech. Theres a lot of things that could go wrong. Those were the main things I could think of. I havent had too much experience working on the angel air. Sorry I couldnt be much help.

[oxygeneater]

it looks like it i am replacing the seals on it now

[oxygeneater]

ok have an update. now it is not leaking around the flash tank (or at least I cant hear it) it is coming out the barrel I hope that is good

[Dances with Tribals]

Yes fire the marker once and it should seal. Does it?

[oxygeneater]

it did not seal I fired a couple of times but I did not have the pressure up i got it to about 250 do I need to go higher?

[Dances with Tribals]

Yea itsoubds like you dont have enough pressure to seal the breech/lpr, so it is staying open and leaking down the barrel.

[oxygeneater]

damn still no seal i took it up to 500

[Dances with Tribals]

Wait u took the hpr up to 500 or the lpr?

[Dances with Tribals]

It might be your tank pressure. Since you took your angel air apart you prolly need to recalibrate your angel air. Turn up the output pressure on your angel air, firing the marker occasionally to see if it will seal.

[oxygeneater]

the valve is in place cause I got the oin in the bottom and also the pin in the aoc my lp was up to 90. Have some errands to run will be back later

[Dances with Tribals]

The last thing to check is that your exhaust valve is leaking.

[oxygeneater]

woooo i did not take the angel air apart was i supposed too the tank pressure is down to 770

[Dances with Tribals]

Try turning it up a little. then shoot it to reset the valve seal.

[Dances with Tribals]

And if that does not work then your exhaust valve is broken and should be replaced.

[DeuceX]

Haha after seein this good thing I turned that angel down to get *something else* lol.

[oxygeneater]

oh well I will try to take it to the local shop and pray they know what they are doing.

[Dances with Tribals]

oh well I will try to take it to the local shop and pray they know what they are doing the suck and over charge like crazy

Most places do. Kinda like hookers....ziiiiiiiing!!!

[oxygeneater]

but the hookers are good for something

[Dances with Tribals]

LMAO yea like stds!

[DeuceX]

STDs FTL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!