Product Development

[cdarnell]

Use this thread if you want to see about getting new products designed, or you are developing a new product and need input from others.

[~kaos~]

Has anyone thought of modding the early "penis" barrel? You know, maybe snip the head off and port it a little??

[ccrobbins]

If you guys want to play with one. It seems like a rather large diameter though. I only use them for old, old paint.

[usagi_tetsu]

I have an idea of something I'd like to see: lo-rise gripping feednecks. I remember Have Blue talking to CCM about doing a run of their grip necks for the Tribals, but I never saw anything come of it. Yes, I've also tried an Impulse threaded neck, and as it only screws in about halfway before locking (due to thread differences), I for one don't like nor trust that particular option. I know our own Mr Darnell mods the stock necks to take the CCM gripping collars (and they look good), would it be possible to mod a stock neck to take some of the height out of the bottom and rethread it? If not the stock, I think someone on PBN (stop making the sign of the Evil Eye, okay?) suggested taking a Spyder grip neck with the ears, cutting off the lower portion and threading it. Anyone else think they'd like to buy some of these?

The other idea I had, and I know this is kind of a "pie in the sky" idea but what the hell, here goes. Anyone remember when the EMag first came out they offered replaceable breeches for it (warp left, warp right, and center feed)? Yeah, I haven't looked at the EMags close lately, so they may still offer those, but would that be possible to do with a stock Tribal body? Or would the entire body need to be built from the ground up to include that particular option?

[TheTramp]

You know, maybe snip the head off and port it a little??

That's really disturbing man. :( ;)

[bullschmidt2k3]

I have an idea of something I'd like to see: lo-rise gripping feednecks. I remember Have Blue talking to CCM about doing a run of their grip necks for the Tribals, but I never saw anything come of it. Yes, I've also tried an Impulse threaded neck, and as it only screws in about halfway before locking (due to thread differences), I for one don't like nor trust that particular option. I know our own Mr Darnell mods the stock necks to take the CCM gripping collars (and they look good), would it be possible to mod a stock neck to take some of the height out of the bottom and rethread it? If not the stock, I think someone on PBN (stop making the sign of the Evil Eye, okay?) suggested taking a Spyder grip neck with the ears, cutting off the lower portion and threading it. Anyone else think they'd like to buy some of these?

The other idea I had, and I know this is kind of a "pie in the sky" idea but what the hell, here goes. Anyone remember when the EMag first came out they offered replaceable breeches for it (warp left, warp right, and center feed)? Yeah, I haven't looked at the EMags close lately, so they may still offer those, but would that be possible to do with a stock Tribal body? Or would the entire body need to be built from the ground up to include that particular option?


yea, that was me. Xtra boy might send me his old spyder feedneck for me to experiment on. if it works well, I will probably buy some new designs ones (or what ever ones you guys want) and sell them. I'd be doing them with a CNC lathe...

[fishy]

Now that thebetterone is not making tribal triggers anymore, perhaps you should come out with your own delrin trigger designs?

[Edwin]

There is an easy way to make no-rise or Tribal specific, just by cutting off the threads on a lathe then retreading for Tribals, unfortunately you really need to re-ano so the threads would be strong. The threads are soo fine that they acan easily strip without the additional strength of ano.

[bullschmidt2k3]

There is an easy way to make no-rise or Tribal specific, just by cutting off the threads on a lathe then retreading for Tribals, unfortunately you really need to re-ano so the threads would be strong. The threads are soo fine that they acan easily strip without the additional strength of ano.


oh, I never really though of having to re-anno.... I don't think it would be a problem as long as you didn't unscrew it all the time...

[Edwin]

Well I got an email into CCM, but I don't expect a reply until Monday. I'll try cutting some Tribal threads from their feednecks. (On a manual lathe)

[bullschmidt2k3]

ok, I'll wait until you try it first, if it doesn't work, I could do it on our cnc lathe probably...


I'm thinkin about makin some triggers, but I don't want to spend time with the trigger and frame off my gun, cause I got tournies coming up soon and I don't want to keep taking my gun apart and putting it back together...

I think I'm gonna buy some delrin and experiment a little... I need a frame to work with though...

[Edwin]

Don't wait on me as it might take a few weeks for me even to get started. If your ready to go, just do it. As we will all benifit

[bullschmidt2k3]

Well, I gotta finish a project I'm doin in shop right now, then I gotta learn the CNC lathe... I don't think we have the right tools to cut threads on our manual lathe. I'll also have to make some kind of adaptor probably, becuse I don't think a feedneck will fit inside the chuck on our cnc lathe. It's a really really small lathe... So, it'll probably be like a month before I can get started...

how much would it cost to get a bunch of feednecks re annoed? does anyone have connections for cheap anno?

[bakerboy4679]

Now that thebetterone is not making tribal triggers anymore, perhaps you should come out with your own delrin trigger designs?

I know a guy that makes triggers for just about any gun.. he carves them from Delrin. AND you design it, he carves it. 15 shipped.

AIM- Life2DYE408

Get w/ him and ask him if he will design them for Tribals. For 15 shipped, you cant go wrong! :party08:

[bullschmidt2k3]

I know a guy that makes triggers for just about any gun.. he carves them from Delrin. AND you design it, he carves it. 15 shipped.

AIM- Life2DYE408

Get w/ him and ask him if he will design them for Tribals. For 15 shipped, you cant go wrong! :party08:

isn't that the guy that had triggers that looked like he just cut them out with a band saw or something? I think I'm gonna order some delrin after our tourney this weekend and do some experimenting...

[ccrobbins]

Wouldn't it be easier to trim from the top down? You don't need that much to hold it. I am gonna hack a spy d neck and see.

[Edwin]

If you are talking about the same thing I am. You need to stick the loader end into a lathe and cut the threads off, then rethread with Tribal threads.... ....that is what I am going to do.

I think the clamping action of the feedneck with help perfect. I was going to make an aluminum shaft the same diameter of a loader neck, and clamp the clamping feedneck to that. This ~hopefully~ will give me a "true" alignment of the feed neck for single point threading.

I'll let you know how it works out.

[bullschmidt2k3]

Wouldn't it be easier to trim from the top down? You don't need that much to hold it. I am gonna hack a spy d neck and see.

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about..


If you are talking about the same thing I am. You need to stick the loader end into a lathe and cut the threads off, then rethread with Tribal threads.... ....that is what I am going to do.

I think the clamping action of the feedneck with help perfect. I was going to make an aluminum shaft the same diameter of a loader neck, and clamp the clamping feedneck to that. This ~hopefully~ will give me a "true" alignment of the feed neck for single point threading.

I'll let you know how it works out.

yea, thats what I'm gonna do, except the aluminum rod that goes into the chuck, I'm going to have to machine down to a smaller diameter, becuase our CNC lather is hella small, and it won't fit other wise...

I don't think I'm going to do this for a while, I still have no experience with our CNC lathe

I have an impulse threaded lowrise sitting around that I can experiment on.. :party08:

this will be cool to see how these turn out...

[TheTramp]

A high rise might give you a little more room to work with once you cut the threads off.

[bullschmidt2k3]

That might work well for experimenting, but the whole point of the thin is to get a clamping low or no rise. at least for me it is...